As
you know already, I was listening to Death Metal all the time way back from 1989
to about 1993. These were the “old days” (at least for me), the days when
some of the best music was created by bands that had lots of ambition and
uniqueness. Sure, as it is with every musical style that becomes more and more
successful, lots of crappy bands came up, trying to be a part of an underground
music scene that they didn’t understand at all. But that’s another story…
Some
of my favourite albums were recorded during that period of time, for example the
first two Entombed albums, Morbid Angel’s famous “Altars of madness” LP,
Dismember’s debut release and lots more. You could buy almost any album that
came out during that time only because of the logo of the band or because the
cover art looked cool. One of the few artists (maybe the only one) who created
some really unique art completely different from all the usual blood and gore
stuff (that was funny at times, too, but became boring soon) was Dan Seagrave.
Everyone into Death Metal knows this guy, I have no doubt about that. Without
his art the albums I mentioned above wouldn’t have been what they are:
Masterpieces. And that’s also the best description for his art in my eyes:
Each picture is a masterpiece. Dan Seagrave developed a unique style that you
could recognize among every other cover. I loved and still love his art. The
last time I saw a picture by him was around 1994 or so, maybe even a bit earlier.
Then one day in the year 2000 I stumbled upon his website and got his e-mail
address. In the ensuing conversation I asked him if he would do an interview for
my site. And that’s what he did. Although it took a while to answer the 24 (!)
questions I sent him, here it is, an interview with the best cover artist ever
(well, at least that’s my opinion). Thanks Dan for taking the time answering
all of the questions, you rule!
As
you told me in your last mail, you are currently in Canada. I remember way back
around 1992 you had spend some time in Canada, too. Do you go there for
inspiration or what is the purpose of those trips? Do you have kind of second
home in Canada?
Over
the years I’ve simply made some good connections here, the city is so
different to where I'm from in England so I suppose that was the initial
attraction, but I prefer the life in Europe. Given the ultimatum I might choose
to live in Spain, but it’s good to get contrast in your life, Toronto to me is
like the pinnacle of modern living as anyone whose been here would know, and
England my country of origin really isn't.
The
last time I saw a cover artwork from you was around 1994, this one being the
Pestilence compilation cover. Why did you take such a long break and what did
you do in the meantime? I didn't really hear much about you for like six years
now...
The
album cover work really dried up, partially because the market had been over
saturated with my work (around 40 covers), and so bands were looking for
something different. I was also becoming drained doing this kind of work all the
time more in a mental sense because I wanted to push things in a different
direction and found that I could not in the current state of things at the time.
So in 1995 I came back to Toronto and started painting whatever I wanted, which
in a way was really difficult because I was so used to producing art in a
certain kind of way that I felt without a commission to drive the work to its
completion, that I might never finish another painting. So I experimented for a
while and then got back into the rhythm of what I wanted to do for myself. In
1997 I went back to England and started working on ideas for the “Temple”
series.
Did
you keep an eye on the death metal scene during these years (1994 - 2000) and
what do you think about that scene today? Where do you see the differences
compared to the "old days"?
Well the music scene now is a very defined concept with a defined market, just as punk had become and still is. It seems to be moving into that very accepted realm, whereas ten years ago death metal was definitely more of an underground thing (right – Stefan).
In
1992 you were talking in an interview about plans concerning the planned release
of a book with your artwork. Did that ever happen?
I
have 5 paintings published in a book called “The encyclopedia of fantasy and
science fiction art techniques” by Titan Books. I had approached Morpheus
International a couple of years ago but they were not interested (obviously
they didn’t know what they were doing to the hungry fans of your art –
Stefan). I still see a book coming together at some point in the future but
I want to do it right not just a cash in.
Also
in 1992 you said that your best work so far would be the cover art for
Suffocation's "Effigy of the forgotten" album. Do you still consider
that one as your best work or is there any other picture you prefer at the
moment?
That
painting is an obsessive creation, I don't think it made a good album cover in
retrospect. Because of the intense amount of detail it should be viewed on a
larger scale, in the next year or so I may release this one and a couple of
other as limited edition prints, most likely Morbid Angel and the
“Clandestine” (Entombed’s second album – Stefan) album covers as
they seem to be the most appreciated. As for my favorite work, it’s always
what you’re working on. Right now I'm starting the second editions to the
“Temple” series, and these paintings really are special (even if I had to
say so myself) because they are the epitome of what I'm capable of creating at
this point, in the ideas and the very careful execution of the work, I'm
spending around 4 solid months on each work 8 hours a day (wow – Stefan).
How
did you get involved in creating the cover artwork for the new Morbid Angel
album? I was very enthusiastic about that when I first heard it, because for me
death metal kind of started with the release of "Altars of madness" in
1989 and that's also the time I first heard about a guy called Dan Seagrave ;-)
Yes,
well, Rob Harris at Earache Records got in touch with me via my web site and
asked if I'd be interested in doing the new cover. I thought it was a good idea
to do it because it reflects the beginnings of the whole scene and my part
within the that scene and it was good fun coming up with the concept. I think it
works really well.
When
I saw a "raw version" of that new Morbid Angel cover I was reminded to
Giger when it comes to the colour of that picture. Would you agree? Do you like
Giger?
I
do appreciate Giger’s work. I don't think there is too much comparison to our
work though in terms of style or execution of ideas but we both work from our
imagination, like all artists in that fantastical realm because it' s the safest
place to be.
So
will you do more cover artwork in the future again?
Not
many people in this genre regard paying 1000 pounds for cover art to be a worthy
cause, so it all depends on whom I'm working for and where their interests lie.
Who
and what was (and still is) influential to you regarding your art? Did these
influences change over the years.
Many
things influence my art. I love architecture and nature, my influences are
usually not direct from what's going on around me, it’s like things go through
a filtration process in my mind an then pop up later as part of an idea, in my
line of work, being introverted usually helps in getting the job done, having
the ability to faze out of the world for a while and focus on that painting.
Even if every one else is out there having a great time.
I
think you pretty soon found your own unique style, one could unmistakably see
that this picture was created by Dan Seagrave. But there were also some people
who tried to copy your style (but they never succeeded in any way). What did you
think about people being influenced by your art?
To
be honest I have not seen any art out there which I would consider to be
influenced by my work, but if there is I would feel quite honored.
How
did you get the inspiration for the covers you did back then, did the bands come
up to you with an idea or with the title of the record or did you make it up all
on your own?
Most
of the covers have been my ideas based on nothing more than a title. A lot of
the art was ideas I'd had for years and then became refined for those
commissions. Take “Testimony of the ancients” (Pestilence). This was an idea
I had when I was 14 years old (I'm 30 now), originally the Centralobe.
“Sphere” was more like an organic orb floating above a rotting tree root
within that well like structure, then it became re-developed for the album
design.
How
did you make a living during the days you didn't do that much cover artwork
(1994 - 2000)?
I've
produced designs and large mural paintings in the States and Canada and U.K.
These pay very well. I also did some original art commissions, but there is
actually a large tin of money buried in a forest some where in Nottingham (my
home town). Whenever I get low I go back for a top up! (Where did you say was
the exact location of that tin? – Stefan)
You
also did some covers for magazines, how do you decide for what magazine you do a
cover and for which you don't?
I
only did a couple of covers for S.O.D. mag but that guy recently ripped me off
so that's an end to that, I don't think I'll be releasing any more art for
magazine covers unless they are reputable.
Some
time ago in another interview I did with you for a fanzine you told me that you
would like to do some special effects work for a movie, did that ever come true?
It
is one of my goals to be a part of a film production on a design level creating
concepts, but ultimately I am intending to make “Temple” into a motion
picture, the art is linked in a mysterious way which will only make sense when
they are all assembled with the connecting storyboards. The script is a ways
from being finished, but the idea is in there and in motion currently in the
form of these posters.
In
1998 you painted an adaptation of characters that you created for Lanwmower Deth
before. Why did you do that, was it because that's how it all started for you?
I
just like those characters, the flying killer cobs, which I re-named (cops).
They're obnoxious threatening but funny. I would also like to make them into an
animated film but I don't think they are quite ready yet.
What's
up with the Lawnmower Deth guys nowadays? Are you still in touch with them? I
really loved their second album "Ooh crikey, it's Lawnmower Deth”, one of
my all time faves…
They
all still live around Nottingham, the singer got married, the other guys I see
around occasionally when I'm back home usually in the pub. The band is long gone,
they're just getting on with life after Lawnmower Deth!
Are
you still in touch with some people from that "old school" Death Metal
scene (bands from 1989 to 1993), especially with those you did covers for?
I
was never really in touch with any of the bands. My role was quite isolated from
them simply producing art and delivering the transparencies to the record
company. In that way I never felt like I was part of the music scene because
none of the people I hung out with were, and I worked at home alone so the
attention was never focused on me as a member of the music genre.
Which
"new" Death Metal cover artists do you like? Do you keep an eye on
these people and what do you think about Kristian Whalin?
I
have not seen any covers that stand out much, the computer stuff is kind of
boring and generic, and the painted stuff seems a bit corny. I haven't seen any
Kristian Whalin art. I’ll keep a look out though.
Which
music are you listening to these days? I remember some years ago you listened to
a lot of different stuff...
Yes,
I like all kinds of music from experimental to heavy. I saw Beck this year in
Toronto and the best show I saw was in New York city in June at the Bowery
Ballroom, the Super Fury animals. It sounds silly but the show was incredible.
What
can you tell me about your new project "Temple"?
“Temple”
is my personal project which delves into the depths of what it is to live in a
natural world filled with unnatural things. Mankind's need to harness and
control our environment with technology machines, systems and order put in place
to make our concept of the world tolerable and acceptable, but when you see
Concorde go down in flames you're reminded of our fallibility that we’re not
untouchable beings. But we’re all hidden inside these kinds of objects not
keen on facing the elements. “Temple” deals with this in a fantastical way.
It’s like an organic resemblance of city elements and things that relate to
that place on a functional level, but this city and all the things within it are
totally venerable to the elements. “Fall From Grace” is a favorite where we
see these enormous hulking aircraft falling from the sky like autumn leaves. A
figure in a shirt and tie is late for his meeting. Desperate he ponders at the
aircraft hatch to consider jumping from the plane before the impending impact.
“Terminal”: We view these slug like metro trains endlessly coiling around
the decrepit infrastructure delivering their occupants to an uncertain destiny.
“Delusions of Grandeur”: The first design of the series shows the
surrounding architecture peeling away like rotting fruit, while a figure remains
deathly still in a window. They are organic in their impimentation of design and
style, throughout all the works I am really creating a world here with rules
that will eventually be broken by the decisive hand of nature. In the story of
“Temple” this becomes firstly evident when a mysterious disease begins to
infect everything. What nobody realizes is that what people believe is an
uncontrollable virus is actually something far worse with implications far
beyond their darkest imagination. That's all I can tell you about that for now
because the visuals are just as important in the telling of this story and the
paintings also hold a clue, if people manage to get a hold of the current 3 out
there they will notice that when they are put together side by side, upside down
in whatever combination the viewer wants that they actually begin to merge in a
symbiotic way. They are published by Swiss company Wizard & Genius..
Take a look at the two excerpts (below) from "Temple" Dan sent me (thanks!!) and you will undoubtedly agree with me that these paintings and their creator are ingenious and not from this earth.
"Delusion" |
"Terminal" |
So
Dan, what
are your future plans?
Obviously
“Temple” is the most time consuming thing. Id like to start selling prints
and posters on the net and also some original work. I'm thinking about doing
some smaller abstract pieces of “Faces”, these I would like to make
available on a gallery web site, probably my own.
Do
you see the internet as a medium to spread your artwork or do you think that art
can only receive its full effect in printed form?
I
think the net is the way to go for all artists. If you can sell art to someone
on the other side of the world then it serves an invaluable purpose.
At
the end of this interview I wanna ask you about a rumour Nicke from Entombed
told me some years ago but that was never quite revealed: Did you really live
with Indians for some time and why did you do that? How was this experience for
you?
Yes
in 1990 ,when I was 19 I came to Canada for the first time to do a volunteer
work program for2 months. This consisted of renovating log cabins on an Indian
reservation called Slate Falls in Ontario. I had to fly in a 2 seater pontoon
plane to the site about 100 miles from the nearest road. I was at this
particular site for 4 weeks, but I was removed following a bizarre chain of
events, consisting of a murder, a fire, a photograph of one of my paintings, a
misunderstanding , and a robbery. It's a complicated thing to explain (indeed
– Stefan), so I'll save it for another time; just in case you’re
wondering the person who got killed happened before my arrival (that’s lame,
haha – Stefan).
Ok,
I guess that's it. It’s been an honour to include this interview on my site,
thanks again!
Thanks
a lot Stefan, it’s been a blast!